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[20080526][译制的胜利]在世界FD之后：对SK-Gaming（原Curse）的专访
原文来自WOR：www.worldofraids.com。
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祝贺你们拿到了基尔加丹的世界FD！你们在很长一段时间里落后于nihilum的进度，你们认为你们取得领先的转折点在哪里？你们觉得整个团队有什么改变？
So first of all grats to the Kil'jaeden first kill! You've been behind Nihilum for a really long time, what do you think was the turning point that made you guys gain lead? What do you think changed in the guild?
噢，其实在开始的时候我们并没有像现在这样严肃地对待FD的竞争，但是我们整个公会已经在精神上自动做好了准备，变得更加有竞争力^^。其实公会并没有什么神奇的变化，只是我们几个头头让所有的人都知道了“我们的目标是什么，我们必须尽全力去争取达到这个目标”。
* Well for starters we never really took the race as serious as we do now, but for Sunwell we really prepared ourselves to be more competetive and the whole guild already had that mentality automatically so :). Nothing really changed in the guild, its just that me and mek and also the other leaders made sure that people understood what our goals were and that we'd do everything we could to achieve them.
所以在你看来“士气”是最重要的因素了？
So the morale change was the most important factor in your opinion?
振奋的士气以及更加的专注确实是我们成为最强公会的重要因素。
* The morale change and a bigger focus on trying to become the best guild.
你们用在穆鲁和基尔加丹boss战上的时间非常的不可思议——4～5天中的40+小时！你们在这段时间里是怎么组织的？你们的会员是怎么安排他们的现实生活，腾出如此多的时间RAID的？他们从他们的家庭，学校和雇主那儿获得了什么支持吗？
The time you spent raiding at M'uru and Kil'jaeden was incredible, 40+ hours over 4-5 days. How do you manage the guild during this time? what are your guildmembers doing IRL to be able to raid so much? how much support do they get from families, school and employers?
我不敢相信我们会听到这么多牢骚，我猜是因为我很年轻，而且在瑞典工作的原因吧。但是，我确实没有发现有这么一种工作，它让你在一整年中腾不出10天的假期来玩儿的。你拥有休假，你可以选择怎么使用它们。人们总是不停地问这种问题，但我确实不明白他们的用意^^。而且这样的繁重工作时间只是在抢进度时出现，当我们杀掉基尔加丹后，我们又会回到正常状态，每周RAID2天了。我重申，WOW是一种业余兴趣，如果你想在这种业余爱好中做到最好，你应该可以承受“拿出几天休息时间来全心投入”这种事吧。
* I can't believe we hear so much whine about this, I guess its just because I'm young and live in Sweden. But I can't really see any job where you can't take 10(?) days off over a whole year just to play, you have vacation days and its up to you how you want to use them. People ask this question all the time and I just don't get it :) Its only during progress, and now when we've killed Kil'Jaeden for example we'll be going back to raiding 2 days a week or so at normal times, Its a hobby and if you want to be the best at the hobby you think is fun you can afford to take some days off to do it.
在穆鲁和基尔加丹战中的修理和消耗品的花费是多少？你们公会银行在最困难的时候是怎么承担过来的？
How much did the M'uru and Kil'jaeden tries cost in terms of repair and consumables? how did the guild bank handle this hard time?
其实修理费没有你们想像中那么高了，我们的公会银行承担了所有的修理费，而且还剩下了很多钱——所以这不会成为问题。然而，为每个人提供消耗品确实是很大的一笔开支，但是我们不是整整等了12个月才争取到这个世界FD吗？所以说所有的花费都是值得的^^。我们现在有许多的空闲时间，所以我们现在就开始为了下个资料片攒集金钱和物资了——所以，BOSS战的开销实在不算是真正的问题的。
* Not that much in repairs, we had the guildbank pay everything and we still have ALOT left so its no problemo on that part. However consumables cost alot for each individual, but it was the 2 most important bosses which we've been waiting for over 12 months so it was well worth it :). We have alot of free time now to save up for the next expansion aswell so its not going to be a problem at all really.
下个问题是关于赞助的。你能够告诉大家——赞助真的有用吗？它到底在哪里帮助了你们？在论坛上有许多的人说你们“拿报酬的RAID，获得FD后还有奖金”，甚至还拍了视频！这些谣言有没有可能是真的呢？
Next question is about sponsorship. Can you tell us more about how it really works? how much help you get from them? Also there are some wild theories out there on the forums about you guys getting payed for raiding, premium for first kills, there's also the famous "Meanwhile at the Sk Office" video. So how much of these rumours is actually true? :)
哈哈哈！SK和mousesports（nihilum的赞助商）是不会为30个RAID团员中每个人每月发薪水的。你从赞助商那儿得到是他们为公会聚会提供的便利，一些硬件和资料——这些就非常好了。对了，你还能有更多的机会让团员们尝试新的东西（beta帐号什么的？）等等。我没法子说起所有关于这方面的事儿，但是你应该了解我的意思了。关于FD什么的，当然FD对于SK和mousesports是很重要啦！所以我们公会这个夏天应该会有个渡假的机会了！
* Haha, there's no way SK or Mousesports(that sponsors Nihilum) can afford to pay 30 active raiders each and every month. The thing you get from sponsors can be guildmeetings, a bit of hardware and stuff like that which is really really nice. And also you get the chance to send a few people to new events and so on. Can't really talk about everything but I think you get the idea. About first kills and so on, of course first kills are worth more to lets say SK or Mousesports so we are definatly going to fix a guildmeeting this summer!
嗯，Tigole说过“太阳井的三个屏障”或者说“大门”系统。你怎么看这个设计？它是好是坏？你们的进度在这个系统中受到了什么影响？
Looking back over the "Sunwell Barriers" as Tigole likes to call the gate system, what's your opinion of it? good? bad? did raiding progress gain anything from this system?
会员与制度
在太阳井上线之前，每个人都认为这个副本绝对是个垃圾，因为每个人都认为其中的boss会和海加尔山和黑暗神庙中差不多（至少大部分是这样）。但是他们实在是太难了，对团队太苛求了！如果没有这些门的话，我觉得这个副本会把所有团队给拖垮的。所以，我觉得这个系统非常好，除了一点——美服比欧服开门早一天！在4天的艰苦RAID之后，在下一道门打开之前，团队能有3周时间休息实在是太好了。
* Before Sunwell everyone thought it would be absolute garbage since everyone thought the bosses would be as easy as in Hyjal or Black Temple (Most of them atleast), but they turned out to be sooo hard and soo demanding. If there wouldn't have been gates guilds would have burned out I think, I think the gate system turned out to be very good, the only flaw with it is that US gets it 1 day ahead of EU basically. After a 4day raiding session it is really nice to have 3 weeks relaxing I tell you. (Until the next gate)
我在FD截图赏看见Neg了。你能透露一点关于这次招募的信息吗？你知道一点他离开之前公会的内幕吗？我们对这件事了解得还不够呢。
It was interesting to see Neg on the killshot. can you tell us a bit about the recruit? do you know what the drama was that made him leave his previous guild? Our knowledge is very limited about this.
我不想对他的上个公会nihilum做任何评论，但是他在那儿并不高兴，正在寻找一个新公会；同时我们正好也在找一个萨满——所以我得说，这是个双赢的结局。
* Well I can't really comment on the state of his old guild Nihilum, but he wasn't happy there and was looking for a new guild at the same time as we needed a shaman so it worked out really well for both of us I'd say.
你觉得就目前的状况而言，多少公会能够击败穆鲁和基尔加丹？或者说，在WotLK的天赋上线（3.0版上线）之前？
What's your guess about the number of guilds that can defeat M'uru and Kil'jaeden in their current form, or before the wotlk talents are patched into the live realms? (13 guilds killed muru before the casting time interrupt fix, and another 15 since then)
基尔加丹的话我觉得不会太多，不过我相信顶级的公会都能在你说的时限前杀掉他的。他是个非常苛求的战斗，对团队中每个人的要求都很高，而且一些随机因素的存在让他更加困难。对于穆鲁来说，我觉得许多公会都能杀掉它，因为它基本上只是个DPS考验，只要战术对头即可。我可没说基尔加丹战不需要完美的战术——因为它就是需要！但是它不只是战术的考验而是目前为止最困难最苛求的战斗。团队中的每个人都必须足够的勤奋和聪明。
* Kil'Jaeden probably not that many, sure the topguilds will kill it in time but it is such a demanding fight from everyone in the raid WITH a couple of random elements which makes it even harder. M'uru I'm sure alot of guilds will kill since its mostly a dps race with tactic involved. I'm not saying Kil'Jaeden doesn't require a perfect strategy because it surely does, It is definatly the hardest and the most demanding fight ever, Everyone in the raid needs to really be on the ball so to say.
对基尔加丹战中和战后的“角色扮演”内容有什么可以介绍的？我们从台词中可以了解一小部分和艾维娜、卡雷苟斯有关的内容，并且知道那小姑娘最终牺牲了自己。对剧情爱好者而言，这场战斗到底意味着什么？在战后到底发生了什么事？同样，从游戏台词中我们找到了维伦和莉亚德林女士关于血精灵圣骑士和纳鲁之间的关系。但是，我们依然不知道其中的细节。你能透露一点吗？
How was the "rp" part of the Kil'jaeden fight and the stuff after it? we know from datamining, that a fair bit of talking is involved between Anveena and Kalecgos, the little lady sacrificing herself eventually. How epic was the fight in terms of lore? Also how was the event after the fight? Again from datamining we gathered Velen and Lady Liadrin talking a lot about the blood elf paladins and the things they did with the Naaru. Aside from the conversation's transcript, we dont know much about the events. Can you tell us a bit about the events?
老实说我没有认真地看完整个剧情的故事，我忙着去更新FD的新闻和采访了，呵呵^^。你倒是可以从我们制作的电影中看到些细节，它足有10分钟呢！我得说，相当牛叉！基尔加丹死亡的一幕看起来非常的酷，当然其他的镜头也一样。
* To be honest I wasn't really looking too much on the event afterwards, I was more out tabbed fixing news and stuff like that hehe. You'll see when we release the movie though and it was about 10minutes long so :) Pretty epic I'd say! The death scene looks really cool aswell and after the whole event you can see the Sunwell.
你刚才说我们可以从你们制作的电影中看见这一切？我很期待！
So you promise we'll see this in the movie? Excellent!
当然了，我们浓缩了整场战斗的精华所在，你会在不久之后看见的！
* Yes for sure, we had quite a few that frapsed the fight so you'll see it soon!
你们会在电影中透露多少战术方面的消息？会有几个人的视角？
How much of the tactics is spoiled in the movie and the different POVs btw?
嗯，现在电影还没有制作完成，但是你可以发现战斗的轮廓。这个boss太难了，对团队中每个人要求如此之高，我敢保证“你看完电影然后走进太阳井然后把老基秒掉”这种事情绝对不会发生。我们大概会有3（？）个人的视角吧。
* Well its not done yet, but you'll see the fight basically. The boss is SO hard and SO demanding from everyone as I said so its not like you can watch the movie and go in and one shot him, thats for sure! We'll have 3(?) different POVS I think.
在穆鲁和基尔加丹——tbc中两场最强的boss战后，你怎么看boss战的设计——是再次增加难度，复杂度以及对战术的执行力要求？还是觉得这种模式已经走到了尽头，需要新的战斗机制来提升难度？
After M'uru and Kil'jaeden - the two ulimate boss encounters in the Burning Crusade - where do you see boss tactics evolving in terms of increasing difficulty, complexity, executing the tactics perfectly? Or it's pretty much maxed out and only new mechanics can increase difficulty?
我对穆鲁战非常兴奋，他们把难度调校的刚刚好！我差一点认为基尔加丹会比较容易（因为它没有在PTR上作测试），但它的难度还要更加的大！我们对BLZ的期待在这两场战斗中更高了，我们希望还有更加好的战斗。我认为BLZ会尝试让个人的技能（而不是战术）会变得越来越重要。
* I was really amazed they managed to tune M'uru so well, I was almost thinking that Kil'Jaeden would be easier since it hadn't been tested at all on the PTR but it turned out to be even harder! Lets just say our expectations after these 2 fights are really high and we're hoping for even better fights. I think they are trying to make personal skill more important more and more.
在见识并且打败了所有的boss后，你最喜欢的3场boss战是？
After seeing and defeating everything possible in game, what is your top 3 favourite encounters in the expansion?
穆鲁，基尔加丹以及玛瑟里顿。基尔加丹会让人非常有挫败感——但它确实是个设计得很好的战斗。我选玛瑟里顿是因为“立方体”太有趣了！
* M'uru, Kil'Jaeden and Magtheridon. While Kil'Jaeden can be REALLY frustrating it is a really nicely tuned fight. And Magtheridon because of the cubes of course :D
你意识到Nihilum已经在5个级别的RAID副本以及整整25个月中取得了世界进度第一的宝座了吗？这些会让你的团队感到骄傲，或者你根本就不关心这种事，只是关注于世界FD？
Do you realize that Nihilum's "haegemony" lasted for 5 tiers and exactly 25 months? Does it make you guys especially proud or you were not concerned about stuff like this at all? only the world first?
嗯，是后者啦，我确信我们能在太阳井领先他们。当然啦，他们是我们最大的威胁，但是，哼，打败他们的连胜感觉很好！
* No I did not, I was sure we could beat them for Sunwell. They were still our main threat though hehe, but yeah it feels better to break their streak for sure!
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